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shop page possibility?

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Hi Guys
First a simple question, if i have used 1 page and renamed it, can i then ad this page to the menu as a duplicate and then edit it, without editing the other similar page at the same time, it seems like when i ad a duplicate page, the pages are linked, so if i edit one page, the edit goes for the other page as well.

1. Shop page:

So this might be a bit tricky, i want to ad a different/simple shop page as just the usual woocomerce page, and i like the overall look of the page - album - gallery - 3 coloumns, which i already added to portry my artwork https://artbyolivernielsen.dk/album/kunstvaerker/

I want to ad this as a shopping/product page (have to figure out the ad to cart - check out thing later on), made a quick example in photoshop so you guys could see what i mean, see screenshot, is this possible?

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  • AirAir
    Posts: 10,691
    Hello there:-)
    oliver777 said: without editing the other similar page at the same time, it seems like when i ad a duplicate page, the pages are linked, so if i edit one page, the edit goes for the other page as well.
    I have never seen such behavior on WordPress. Only thing I can think of, is that one page is redirecting you to another, and it is misleading you.
    I had such situations sometimes and I didn't even notice that is redirecting me ;-)

    In which way have you created a copy of the first page?
    oliver777 said: 1. Shop page:
    So you have to use a single album that you have created and named as a shop page and link in the menu(if you want).

    Rest of the shop you have to setup normally, and create products in traditional way.

    After you are done with the whole setup, in each image of the album you can link to existing product, and this will create add to cart button over each photo that is linked to real product.

    Look for the option "Product this image represents" while editing each image in the album https://rifetheme.com/apollo13-framework/docs/content-management/albums-works-post-types/album-media/

    Hope that helps :-)

    With kind regards.
  • Posts: 24
    Hi
    "In which way have you created a copy of the first page?"

    I just ad the page i have already made for the menu under appereanse - menu, maybe i´m just doing something wrong.

    For the shop page question: So the only option to get this, is by editing a page through elementor and adding a normal gallery? It´s just because i like the overall look the Coloumn 3 album/page gives, so would be awesome if i somehow could use this for it.
  • Posts: 24
    so if i want a new coloumn 3 album page, i should actually do: Under "albums" ad a new album - ad it to menu under "menu" and then i can edit it seperately right?
  • AirAir
    Posts: 10,691
    oliver777 said: I just ad the page i have already made for the menu under appereanse - menu, maybe i´m just doing something wrong.
    In this way you are creating only a new link to the same site.
    You have to create physical copy of the page to have 2 separate pages.

    You can do it using plugin like https://pl.wordpress.org/plugins/duplicate-post/


    oliver777 said: So the only option to get this, is by editing a page through elementor and adding a normal gallery?
    You can also do it in native view of the album, but your idea is much more flexible then mine. Adding a gallery to Elementor is great idea. Bra

    With kind regards.
  • Posts: 24
    Thanks a lot, if i just choose a normal shop page, would you then recommend making it through the "WP plugin shop page" or "woocommerce"
    just so i´m sure i´m not setting something up, that sn´t theme supported and makes conflicts etc
  • Posts: 24
    I have never buildt and added a shop page before, so any recommendations is highly appreciated, and i don´t have elementor pro, so not sure if i can even use elementor for this page
  • AirAir
    Posts: 10,691
    Hey :-)

    Our theme is tested and made to support WooCommerce.

    Best would be to setup shop page with their wizard https://docs.woocommerce.com/document/woocommerce-setup-wizard/

    By default shop page in our theme will look similar to this https://rifetheme.com/photoproof-8/shop/
    or this https://rifetheme.com/fatmoon-victoria/shop/

    You can customize few aspects of it in the customizer https://rifetheme.com/apollo13-framework/docs/customizing-the-theme/shop-settings/

    You can also add widgets to the sidebar in the shop sidebar https://rifetheme.com/apollo13-framework/docs/basic-setup/widgets-sidebars/


    Shop page is mostly controlled by the combination of the theme and WooCommerce, so you can not edit it with Elementor. It is one of a few special types of pages, that are prebuild, like blog page, albums list, etc.

    What you can do, is to use Elementor widgets and WooCommerce shortcodes to create customized page, that you will treat as your shop page(and link it in the menu). From there customers can click into specific products.

    However, this solution depends on complexity of your offer in the shop, and might not be scalable for a large shop.

    WooCommerce shortcodes https://docs.woocommerce.com/document/woocommerce-shortcodes/

    With kind regards.
  • Posts: 24
    Ok so i´m under way in setting a regular shop page, which looks pretty cool, and will be perfect with some fine tuning, but the product images seems more unclear than the ones i have in the 3 coloumn album, and the images are the same etc,

    see the difference?
    Album: https://artbyolivernielsen.dk/album/kunstvaerker/

    Shop: https://artbyolivernielsen.dk/shop/

    Any idea why this is? it´s super important for me as an artist that my images is totally clear both on product catalouge page and single product page.
  • Posts: 24
    also on the shop page, is it possible to ad an image in the top banner section where it says "Shop" and also adding aditional text in that box?
    see screenie
    shop page test.jpg
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  • AirAir
    Posts: 10,691
    Hey :-)
    oliver777 said: the product images seems more unclear than the ones i have in the 3 coloumn album, and the images are the same etc,
    Please go to WooCommerce settings and adjust the setting for WooCoomerce images https://docs.woocommerce.com/document/woocommerce-customizer/#section-14




    oliver777 said: also on the shop page, is it possible to ad an image in the top banner section where it says "Shop"
    Sure, you can set it in the title bar settings for the shop. Just be sure to reduce the opacity for the background color for the title bar, to see the image behind the color.
    Appearance → Customize → Shop Settings → Products list – title bar
    oliver777 said: is it possible to ad an image in the top banner section where it says "Shop" and also adding aditional text in that box?
    This place is called a subtitle, however, for shop there is no option to add a subtitle.

    If you need you can use below code to have subtitle.
    Best would be for you to use a child theme for the theme, and in functions.php file in the child theme, add such a code
    function apollo13framework_title_bar( $called_position = 'outside', $title = '', $subtitle = '') {
        //swap your shortcode below for the shop
        if(apollo13framework_is_woocommerce_activated() && (is_shop() || is_product_taxonomy() )){
            echo apollo13framework_get_title_bar( $called_position, $title, 'My text');
        }
        else{
            echo apollo13framework_get_title_bar( $called_position, $title, $subtitle);
        }
    }
    Just please swap the My text part to your text in the above code.

    About using the child theme https://rifetheme.com/apollo13-framework/docs/installation-updating/installing-child-theme/

    With kind regards.
  • Posts: 24
    thank you, but messing around with the child theme is a bit above my skills :) so have to leave it at that, regarding the images i guess you guys have nothing to do with this since it´s woocommerce correct? cause i´ve followed different instructions, but images are still not to good, guess i have to live with it in the beginning.

    Not sure this is something you guys can answer as well, but i have to make some T&C´s - privacy policy etc pages. What would you guys recommend for these pages, not sure they have to be as subpages under shop in the main menu, the could be in a footer on the shop page, or just linking to the pages on the cart page.

    What would be best practise here? If this isn´t covered by your support i totally understand
  • AirAir
    Posts: 10,691
    Hey :-)
    T&C´s - privacy policy
    First of all you need to create those pages:-)

    Once you have them you can link them in footer widget for exapmle.
    I wouldn't add them to the main menu.
    In WooCommerce settings, there is an option to select your "terms" page, and it will link it in proper places in the shop. WooCommerce → Settings → Advanced → Terms and conditions .

    oliver777 said: regarding the images i guess you guys have nothing to do with this since it´s woocommerce correct? cause i´ve followed different instructions, but images are still not to good, guess i have to live with it in the beginning.
    If you want to adjust size of images in the shop, increase width in Customizing → WooCommerce → Product Images →Thumbnail width.

    Next, you will have to regenerate thumbnails in WooCommerce → Status → Regenerate shop thumbnails

    Hope that helps.

    With kind regards.
  • Posts: 24
    Hi
    Tried to make my images better on the shop page, however i can´t seem to figure it out, so must get some help for this somehow, pretty funny i can´t do this as i´m an digital artist, go figure aye :)

    1. I want to add a shopping cart icon, i have looked under appeareance - customizing - woocommerce, but can´t seem to find it, do you know how i can get it displayed, and if possible, i only want it displayed on the "shop page"
  • AirAir
    Posts: 10,691
    oliver777 said: 1. I want to add a shopping cart icon, i have looked under appeareance - customizing - woocommerce, but can´t seem to find it, do you know how i can get it displayed, and if possible, i only want it displayed on the "shop page"
    If you want it to appear in the header like here https://rifetheme.com/photoproof-8/
    you will have to add some widget to the Basket sidebar https://rifetheme.com/apollo13-framework/docs/basic-setup/widgets-sidebars/
    oliver777 said: i only want it displayed on the "shop page"
    Not possible, and not advised as well.
    oliver777 said: Tried to make my images better on the shop page, however i can´t seem to figure it out, so
    Could you please send me temporary* access to your WordPress so I could check there what is going on? Send it here on the forum via private message(click on my nick, in top-right corner you will find option "Message"). In message please add LINK to topic it applies to.

    By sending access to WordPress I mean:
    -create a new ADMIN account with a fake e-mail
    -set some password to this account
    -send me created login and password

    *temporary - please delete this account after I am done, for your safety!
  • Posts: 24
    Thank you, got the "Basket icon" added i think :) It is showing in sidebar on all my pages except when i´m on the "Shop page" is this as it should be? think it would be nice to have it displaying on the shop page as well, so potentiel customers can see when they ad a product to the basket and go to cart, but maybe it just shouldnt show up on that page?

    Regarding the images, i appreciate you will take a look and not that i wont give you the log in etc, but spending time creating a new admin etc etc is a bit much to me, and i should be able to figure this out myself, appreciate the support though.
  • Posts: 24
    Hi, please disregard the first question, as the basket is showing in all pages now, might have been a update delay sorry
  • AirAir
    Posts: 10,691
    oliver777 said: creating a new admin etc etc is a bit much to me,
    You can do it by creating a new user, and removing it after I am done(when we will reach the desired effect). The whole process on your side will take 2 minutes. However, I am not pushing for it, if you don't feel comfortable with it.

    With kind regards.
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